Wednesday, September 21, 2011

What do you think?

On Monday, you had the assignment of defending a position that was given to you. Rather then give your own opinion or come to your own decision, I told you what you believe. Now it's your turn. I want to know what you think.

Based on what you learned through the readings, as well as through the class presentations, what do you think should be the direction of U.S. policy toward the terrorist threat? Feel free to use some of the positions proposed in our four options, or come up with ideas of your own.

As with the presentations, remember that your argument will be more convincing if back up by evidence.

I encourage everyone to engage in dialogue with your classmates. Please keep the exchanges respectful.


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42 comments:

Hunter Reedy(: said...

I think the United States should stop the drone programs because they are killing the innocent people in locations of terrorists, and instead they should just go after the terrorists with guns or something so then only the terrorists are dying, and not the innocent people in the locations of the terrorists. I think this will make the world a more peaceful place.

Anonymous said...

i dont beleive the U.S can end terrorism with war. terrorist organizations are small, scattered targets, so the bulky and obvious force of war will NOT remove terrorism. Alternatively, America must focus on targeted killings. the targeted killings will be affective because of thourough planning and secretivity. You can consider the killings as America's offense to terrorism, and America's defense will be even more effective: enhancing our security. We should strongly buckle down on the protection of our infrastusures, becuase an attack on a vital infrastructure could PARALYZE our economy for days. Furthermore, i especiaslly recognize border control as an issue america should focus on. With so many points of entry and so many miles of border, terrorists could sneak into this country. Obviously, these wars haven't stopped terrorism, so something needs to change. i honsetly believe the U.S's focus should be targeted killings and enhancing our security, exclusively infrastructers and border control.

Anonymous said...

I'M SORRY I THOUGHT I PUT MY NAME! this is my comment (: i dont beleive the U.S can end terrorism with war. terrorist organizations are small, scattered targets, so the bulky and obvious force of war will NOT remove terrorism. Alternatively, America must focus on targeted killings. the targeted killings will be affective because of thourough planning and secretivity. You can consider the killings as America's offense to terrorism, and America's defense will be even more effective: enhancing our security. We should strongly buckle down on the protection of our infrastusures, becuase an attack on a vital infrastructure could PARALYZE our economy for days. Furthermore, i especiaslly recognize border control as an issue america should focus on. With so many points of entry and so many miles of border, terrorists could sneak into this country. Obviously, these wars haven't stopped terrorism, so something needs to change. i honsetly believe the U.S's focus should be targeted killings and enhancing our security, exclusively infrastructers and border control.

Sydney A said...

somehow im doing the naming wrong. that big comment is Sydney A's. ):

brenn rosenbaum said...

i think we should take troops out of iraq while keeping intouch with the iraqi government and helping them with bombings and if it gets really bad then send some trooops over to help but for no longer than 6 months or so while haveing each "shift" about a month or so for each pattalion of soldiers.

Kiley said...

i agree with hunter about the drone attacks, they kill people and some of those people are innocent. i also believe that we should come up with a slightly less violent way to deal with terrorism. We should also continue tapping phones and monitoring communication across the United States. this might lessen terrorism and will make it feel like a safer place to live here.

Rachel L.:) said...

i agree with hunter and i think that we need to talk over with the terrorist and do whats right including the laws.Also i honestly i thing that option 2 is what i think is right and my option. its not because i did reasearch on that one but i totally agree with option 2.

brenn rosenbaum said...

Kiley if we dont take a more violent aprouch then we wont be able to stop terrorism like we have been in the last 10 years(at least from al quiqda and the taliban).

Unknown said...

Hunter - Okay. So how long should we keep up our pursuit of terrorists? What about entering countries (such as Pakistan) where terrorist are hiding? Should we do so without that country's support or permission? What would you say to those that argue that drones save American lives?

By the way - great artwork!!

Unknown said...

Sydney - Some good points. Some would argue that keeping the fight up "over there" has made America safer, that the absence of another 9/11 style attack is proof that our current path has worked. On domestic security, how far would you go? Should we be willing to infringe upon the rights of our own people in the name of security?

Unknown said...

Brenn - Iraq is just one theater of our war on terror. Pulling out of Iraq doesn't address the greater questions about combating terrorism.

Kiley - What would you say to people who are concerned about giving up their rights in the name of fighting terrorism (privacy, etc.)? Do you feel that your security at home approach would lead to an end of terrorist attacks on our country? Any evidence from the readings?

Rachel - Do you think that groups like Al-Qaeda would be willing to sit down and negotiate with us? If not, then what?

Notes to Everyone - A good start. Can't wait to see what your classmates have to say. Please remember to craft your arguments carefully. Think about what you want to say, consider any arguments that might be made against it, then deliver it as clearly as possible.

Very Important: Proof-read your comment before clicking on publish. Attention to writing quality - grammar, spelling, word usage, sentence structure, etc. - is very important. Remember, everyone in the world can see your comments.

Kelsey O. said...

Even though I was assigned option 4 (address root causes of terrorism), I actually do believe this option is the best. If we stop terrorism at its beginning, then the U.S. won't have to deal with major and harmful terrorist attacks like 9/11. The root causes of terrorism include poverty, hatred of the U.S., religious acts, etc. Most of the time, terrorist might either hate the U.S. (because of our troops in the middle east) or they are religiously motivated like the 9/11 attacks. Why wait until terrorism gets really bad and harms a lot of innocent people when we can stop terrorism early by not fighting, figuring out the causes, and addressing them as soon as possible?

Sarah D!!! said...

I dont believe the United States or any other country can end terrorism period.But engaging in wars, drone attacks, and targeted killings aren't the way to go. I feel that America should stop the drone attacks, because as hunter said they are killing innocent people which sometimes makes other countries even more upset. I also agree with kelsey, America should figure out the problems that are making people want to attack through terrorism and address these issues and maybe find a compromise so that all countries can get along with us and the world could be a little bit more peaceful.

brenn rosenbaum said...

Mr. Veliz, i agree but if we can get the government working and teach them to have thier own police system then we dont have to be over thier but if they get in trouble then we can go help

Sydney A. (: said...

Thankyou mr. veliz, and I understand why america might think these wars have kept off another 9-11 style attack. It may even be true that the wars have yeilded assaults, but they weren't the only reaction the U.S. had towards 9-11. We've also tightened down on security since 9-11, and this action HAS played a role in the absence of additional attacks! If you've walked into an airport recently you could see my point of enhanced security. We need to improve other areas of protection, such as those I already mentioned; border control and vital infrastructre. To reasonably enhance the security of these programs I would be willing to infringe on the rights of the people. It wouldn't get out of hand. I think the Partiot Act is extremely necessarry, and the people should be willing to sacrifice small degrees of rights in order to protect this country.

Anonymous said...

sarah, i see you're point. i agree we should continue the war, but without drone attacks and targeting killings, what will our offense be to terrorism?

Anonymous said...

Sydney said the comment about sarah

Hannah Tillman said...

I agree with Hunter and Sarah. Therefore we should stop drone attacks because Terrorist are scattered through out the globe. but, we need to be ready to act as soon as terrorist attack.

Amora R. said...

I agree with Hunter, we should stop the drone programs that kill the innocent, though i do also believe we should address the root causes of terrorism to find out why they attack us and find a better way to deal with the problem.

Natalie K. said...

hey im from 3rd period.

i beaveve that if we commit to the UN but not complettely and save some fo our troops to defend our country as well so that we can in turn possibly end the war of terror in the long run and the us would be safe from attacks such as 9/11.

Natalie K. said...

and also to amora.

what other ideas could we use?

what about fixing the problem that they find so bad and if that is not a good solution we can try to bribe them and give them some thing of ours so that they will stop.

Logan said...

I think they should try to stop terrorism in a different way and see if it helps get rid of terrorism they should keep doing it.

Rayne Hawkins:) said...

I think that the U.S. should colaborate to fight terrorism. We need to have allies to help us and keep us knowing about what the terrorists in the Taliban and other major terrorist groups. Also, i think we should stop the drone attacks and targeted killings. We need to follow the Constitution and give everyone, including suspected terrorists, a right to go to court and defend themselves instead of just sending them to prison camps where they are harshly punished for just beibg a SUSPECTED terrorist. I agree with Sydney that the wars are obviously not helping, so we should pull out the troops and work with the U.N. instead of trying to kill them all:)

Anna McDonald's :) said...

I would have to agree with Hunter Reedy. Drones are killing many innocent peoplpe and is not right, i am sure we can think of something other than killing innocent people. I know it the drones are trying to kill the terrorists but by killing a terrorst you have to go through alot of innocent Americans. So Ammerica must come up with a different solution that dose not involve killing citizens. We must plot an idea not involoving war or drones. If we go into war we will never be able to solve our problems in peace. We should solve our problems in a peacefull matter with the terrorst countries. Thankyou.Thankyou. thankyou very much. Anna McD.

Anna McDonald's :) said...

I would have to disagree with Brenn on this one. violent approaches will only result in longer wars and chaos for families and our government. I must say that I agree with Sydney..Border Control is a huge problem that should be taken more seriously!

Anna McDonald's :) said...

We must prpare and wake up America again....Something might happen to us.

Anna McDonald's :) said...

But in my case in optin 4, "Legal advisor" we have to make sure these plots are not illegal. We have to keep everything under the radar and safe for America.

Anna McDonald's :) said...

Kiley- Tapping phones and moniorting cummunication is a worry for me. I think many Americans are going to feel invaded and unconfortable about this. "Legal Advisor" - You must understand you are intruding. But I would definatley agree with coming up with something with less violence.
anna mcDeee Thankyall

Quinn said...

i agree with hunter that we should stop the drone attacks they are killing way to many innocent people. i think we should just have more security so terrorists can't attack us

Anna McDonald's :) said...

I agree with Rayne!!!! Everone has rights.

Rayne Hawkins:) said...

I agree with Anna and Hunter. We need to stop killing innocent people and we need to make sure we are following the law if we plan to do things like assasinations, which we are NOT! Even if they did kill millions, if we kill them, we are no better than all the terrorists.

Hannah Tillman said...

I agree with Rayne. If we do decide on how we detroy terrorist we need to follow the rules of America while at it.

Hunter Reedy(: said...

Mr. Veliz- I think we should keep the pursuit on terrorists until they either stop "terrorizing" or until things have calmed down a bit. If we were to enter countries such as Pakistan, I think we should ask for permission. If they say no, and the terrorists are attacking, we should try to kill them anyway. And about drones, no matter what people say, drones don't save American lives, they only kill other innocent peoples' live. The people who are dying under drone attacks are just like American citizens. We don't attack terrorists, the military and government do.

Kelsey O. said...

I agree with almost everyone. If we keep fighting these terrorists, they are going to hate us even more. All of these drone attacks and wars and targeted killings are not going to make these people all of a sudden magically stop fighting and love us. We have to show them that we are not a violent country. I think we should collaborate with other countries to create peace and stop the causes of terrorism (like I said with my previous comment) and create world peace, not World War three.

Kelsey O. said...

I also like what Sarah said about compromising with other countries and stopping attacks.

Sarah D!!! said...

Just like kelsey, i agree with everyone. I do understand what America is trying to do by starting wars and drone attacks and targeted killings to prevent attacks like 9/11 but its killing people, wasting trillions of dollars and sacrificing our justice, freedom and safety only to make matters worse. We can never completely prevent or get rid of terrorism or terrorist attacks, but we can lower the number of times attacks happen. America should try to show the world that we are a peaceful country and we try to do right by everyone, but killing millions of innocent people in drone attacks and wars is NOT showing the world anything but violence. We should not have to disobey or make exceptions against the laws and rights in the constitution. There is another way, like i previously stated we should try to talk and compromise with other countries and we shouldn't be bias towards innocent peaceful people because of their race, religion, or where they came from just because of Osama bin Laden and other terrorist groups.

Sarah D!!! said...

And i feel very strongly about my last statement because it has happened to people that i know. And i think that when people who hold high positions in government are making big decisions related to terrorism that can affect the whole country they should think about how it is going to affect muslim americans that are peaceful and mean no harm but at the same time keep the country safe, because people came to America for freedom and equality and i do understand that it is hard to tell who is peaceful and who isnt but the peaceful ones who are being treated unfairly and with disrespect because they are muslim doesn't stand by any of Americas constitutional principles.

brenn rosenbaum said...

wow nones agreeing with me

Kyle C said...

I believe that, U.S schould continue everything there doing. They don't need to stop nothing. We haven't lost a war yet. So i don't think its time to lose one now. We need to continue to fight terriosim, so that the whole world can be safe from it. Or else terroist are going to keep on running the world, as there doing now.

Mickey!!!! (micaela) said...

i agree with hunter her postion is very cinvincing but i think we should also join with other countries and do the same thing as hunter said. And we should only do this as long as terrorist are still striking at us or any other countries. We should also enter countries that have terrorist in them if we are 100% positive that there are terrorist that are going to attack countries. KYLE are u crazy if we keep the drone attacks or the targeted killings then we not only kill are own people in some of the attacks but we kill people who support us in other countries and want to help us but they can't because of their countries place in the war.

Rachel said...

Anna-I agree that tapping phones and monitoring communication could be a problem. But I also think it might be nessecary, for U.S. citizens to be safe.

Anna McDonald's :) said...

Extra Credit Blogging isn't letting me post..i have tried several times and it has not showed up.....I need the Extra Credit, Mr. Veliz