Wednesday, September 8, 2010

Slavery: Old News or Relevant History?

I hope that you all found today's activity on slavery informative and eye-opening. But does it really matter that we study stuff like this? Some would question whether or not it is wise to dig up this awful part on our nation's history. Why not put it out of our minds and just move forward? I suppose we can ask that question about all of history. That would not be good news for a history teacher!

We've discussed how Southern plantation owners may have justified their involvement in the institution of slavery. A good case can be made that without slavery the economy of the Southern colonies - and later the Southern United States - would have crumbled. Howard Dodson, writing about the importance of slavery to the cotton trade in 1800s America, says "the slavery system in the United States was a national system that touched the very core of its economic and political life." He goes on to describe how the institution of slavery was interwoven into virtually every part of the U.S. economy at the time:

Each plantation economy was part of a larger national and international political economy. The cotton plantation economy, for instance, is generally seen as part of the regional economy of the American South. By the 1830s, "cotton was king" indeed in the South. It was also king in the United States, which was competing for economic leadership in the global political economy. Plantation-grown cotton was the foundation of the antebellum southern economy.

But the American financial and shipping industries were also dependent on slave-produced cotton. So was the British textile industry. Cotton was not shipped directly to Europe from the South. Rather, it was shipped to New York and then transshipped to England and other centers of cotton manufacturing in the United States and Europe.

As the cotton plantation economy expanded throughout the southern region, banks and financial houses in New York supplied the loan capital and/or investment capital to purchase land and slaves.

Recruited as an inexpensive source of labor, enslaved Africans in the United States also became important economic and political capital in the American political economy. Enslaved Africans were legally a form of property—a commodity. Individually and collectively, they were frequently used as collateral in all kinds of business transactions. They were also traded for other kinds of goods and services.

The value of the investments slaveholders held in their slaves was often used to secure loans to purchase additional land or slaves. Slaves were also used to pay off outstanding debts. When calculating the value of estates, the estimated value of each slave was included. This became the source of tax revenue for local and state governments. Taxes were also levied on slave transactions.

Politically, the U.S. Constitution incorporated a feature that made enslaved Africans political capital—to the benefit of southern states. The so-called three-fifths compromise allowed the southern states to count their slaves as three-fifths of a person for purposes of calculating states' representation in the U.S. Congress. Thus the balance of power between slaveholding and non-slaveholding states turned, in part, on the three-fifths presence of enslaved Africans in the census.

(from National Geographic News)

So were Southern plantation owners right? Was the future of the United States - and the survival of the colonies before that - critical enough to justify slavery? Obviously, we have decided as a nation - as late as it was - that slavery was an evil institution and a regrettable part of our past. So should slavery be remembered as a necessary evil? If so, then how can it we get past the fact that African slaves were forced against their will to be at the center of this horrible history.

Today you heard the horrors that Africans had to endure from the moment they were captured. Hopefully, for a few minutes you tried to put yourself in Kunte's shoes - as impossible as that is.

So after reading above about how important slavery was to the economy of our country's early years and after considering what we heard and felt in class, how do you think the United States would be different today if the slavery in North America never existed? Would there have ever been a United States? Would the United States have been better off without slavery? If we decide that slavery was important enough to forgive early Americans for, then we should consider what Lincoln said:
Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally.
That's probably a good test to apply to ourselves whenever we argue for anything!!

Remember, keep your comments and debate respectful. Be thoughtful!!

31 comments:

Chase Vaughn said...

I believe that slavery was not right in the sense of we were killing people and thinking that they were not people they were lower than humans an were sent to earth to be sold to work. On the other hand, it was good for slave owners because life for them was so much easier with slaves than without slaves.

Sean S. said...

The economy in the south would not have been as good and most people would not move down to the south because how ever much land was given, the more you got the more work you had to do and the land was in the south was better than in the north, more people would have died because of the winters, and the colonists would have died. Also on the ship people would have died. I think the south had just as much power as the north in the civil war meaning the confedorates would have won. I think we schould have got the labor some how but not by slavory.

Aaron P. said...

I think if slavery in the United States never existed, the colonies might have never developed a strong enough economy to be able to revolute from Britain, because the north's farmers practiced subsistence farming, while the south had large plantations run by slaves that grew cash crops and produced large amounts of money. I think the United States might or might not have existed without slavery, and the smaller economy in the south would have probably have delayed the revolutionary war by at least some. The United States would probably not be better off without slavery, but it was still a cruel thing to do. The effects helped out the United States a good amount, but probably not enough to forgive them for slavery. I Agree with Chase that it was really bad that slaves were treated as if they were less than human beings.

Asantewaa Y. said...

I think since the amount of land work was a lot they could haved used African-Americans to help them work, with little pay; instead of slavery. Slavery was not a good idea because Americans would treat African-Americans as a lower class of people just because of their color skin. As the slaves were on their way to different places they could have had better living conditions. They need to stay strong and healthy but they did nothing to keep them strong and healthy. Tahey were placed in small places with no more.

Ally K. said...

I think that slavery was wrong because the owners of the slaves treated the slaves as people who were on a lower level than the rest of society and the slaves weren't being treated very well either. I think that if they needed someone to do all that yard and house work then they could've done it themselves.

Reagan A. said...

Although slavery was horrible, I think it is a very important part in US history. Colonist could have done without slaves, and done the labor by themselves but since the African Americans were different, they assumed they must have a different purpose in life. Naturally the colonist assumed something to make their life easier, and decied that the purpose of a black person's life was to work for someone ranked higher in clsss then them. Without slavery and then later on the freedom of slaves, a whole section in US history would be missing. The world could have done without slavery, no doubt but it plays a very impopsrtant role in out past.

Irfan Kovankaya said...

I believe that slavery is the worst thing one human can do to another even worst then murder since it is like torture. This is the worst form of racism so I think we should learn about it so even though racism exists today even here in the US we can try to get rid of it.

Daniel R. said...

I think that without slavery, the south's economy would have suffered, hurting the rest of the colonies, and possibly keep us from winning the Revolution. Though slavery was cruel, the south needed labor to farm all of their land. The slaves could have at least been provided better housing, pay, a share of the crop for food, and maybe even a gun for hunting or fishing tackle. The also could have been more humane.

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Dax Aucutt said...

Personally, i have absolutely no positive points to advertise on slavery. Chase is right in saying that it was wrong that we treated these "lower people" who our now our closest friends like a bag of horse manure. it also occurs to me that perhaps slavery is seen as such an economic pillar because we grew too reliant upon them. it's like somebody who has become addicted to video games, perhaps they want to break away from that and do something else, but the thing is, he doesn't have enough experience to do anything else anymore, and he just doesn't know how to push himself hard enough anymore. the exact same thing happened in the south. they grew lazy after years of trading slaves, and depended solely on these people whom in their eyes had no rights, but in reality, the slaves were more deserving of human rights than their captors. i'm ashamed to think that my ancestors had the misfortune to grow up in an economic era when slavery was promoted, sometimes people even went so far as to say that the bible itself approved it. in short, my answer is no, the southerners were very wrong in trading slaves. and why would they start at that time? they had been trading with the Africans for centuries, why choose that time to revoke their rights because they didn't want to work their own farms? anyway, object my ideas if you will, but this is just the only way i can wrap my head around the matter

Andrew M said...

The United States would be different today because we would have learned how to work hard for ourselves. It would be nice to think that everyone would always be treated equally but this is not real. The U.S. would have been better off without slavery. Racism might not exist and African Americans would not resent the white people for what the slave owners did to their ancestors. The white people might not be so lazy, they would do their own share of the work.

JP.H said...

I feel that the plantaion owners were very wrong. They came to America for a new start.I personal think they were given to much land, Because of the over obundance of land they searched for a new labor way to be able to harvest all there land. So they brought in slaves for a easy way to harvest the cash crops. If slavery in North America never existed I think the country would have people with more jobs because it shows that you need to be a productive hard worker to have a succesful life now in curent times. I think that the U.S.A would very much be better of with out slavery for the reason of that everybody has to work and that everybody is the same no matter what race they are, or what religon they are, everybody is the same so you have to treat them the same. To sum up what i am saying if the colonist did not encourage the United States about slavery it would be whole different world. The people in there would be treated exacctly the same no matter who they were.

Unknown said...

I believe that slavery was bad in a sense that there were real living people that were being treated as if they were mules. Although, in the end slavery has done some good in which we now have a country filled with both blacks and whites. There have also been great things that have been done here by blacks that could have taken years more for the white to figure out. And that leaves me with a question that may never be answered. What it have been like without slaves? (that is rhetorical for now.)

Dax O Aucutt said...

JP, i agree completely. because the southern slaveholders were too greedy for land, they found a need to convert former trading partners into a commodity to be sold and traded, and it was completely wrong.

Unknown said...

Great point JP. I totally agree. There's not much to add but i highly agree with you and Dax. Highly Agree

Unknown said...

I think that Chase is right because no one is lower than anyone else. And they were not put an the earth to be owned by someone else. But it made it so that slave owners did not have to do any work. But the economy would not have been as good without slavery because they could not get as muuch done

Shawn D said...

I think the plantation owners were greedy because they wanted so much land. They did not have enough people to work on the fields and take care of the land so they bought slaves. To do the work. The slaves got nothing in return they were treaded badly and not being fed equally like all the Americans. The African Americans also lost a all their religious beliefs and could not worship them anymore. I think having African American slaves was just racism when today some of them are important leaders. Racism was then and it is still now

Ellie said...

Even tough slavery was HORRIBLE! i think its an important part in U.S history and without it, the United States would not be what it is today.But i agree with J.P because slavery was just not right. It's hard to believe that the plantation owners and slave trader's would treat real human beings less than live stock. I mean no person is lower than anyone else. It's also hard to believe that other people would let them get away with it.

Ellie said...

Even tough slavery was HORRIBLE! i think its an important part in U.S history and without it, the United States would not be what it is today.But i agree with J.P because slavery was just not right. It's hard to believe that the plantation owners and slave trader's would treat real human beings less than live stock. I mean no person is lower than anyone else. It's also hard to believe that other people would let them get away with it.

Dax O Aucutt said...

Dylan, i personally must call Bologna Sandwich, i believe that had the Africans been regarded as allies of england, they would not have been sailed over as slaves, but colonists. this route also would possibly not encourage much of the slavery in the world today. I'll say it again, slavery was just not a logical decision, it was one based upon nothing but leisure and the fact the very people who actually benefit from it the most did not want to work their own land. period.

Unknown said...

Dax, I must disagree. There plantations were huge, deasease was litteraly flying around, and the slaves could pay off a lot of debt. It was not right to persicute the slaves, but in the slave owners mind it was a way to make life eaiser.

Unknown said...

Dax, I must disagree. There plantations were huge, deasease was litteraly flying around, and the slaves could pay off a lot of debt. It was not right to persicute the slaves, but in the slave owners mind it was a way to make life eaiser.

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Ashleigh B. said...

Even though people these days think slavery was horrible, it should not be known as being terribly horrible. They did not know any better but to do so. We know better than that and know that it is wrong to do so. They had no idea. Even though we know that humans were not put on earth to be treated horribly and work for others 14-16 hours a day and even until death, they just thought they were doing the right thing.

Dax O Aucutt said...

chase, you must understand that the families of farmers were huge, and if two or three families worked on a plantation, they could probably get all of the work done, without the use of slaves. although you do make a point Ashleigh, they were raised to believe it was right, but there had to be many people, besides the slaves who saw it as wrong

J.P H said...

Chase I have to disagree with you i think the slaves did not impact the economy because they had to provide hospitality and food. I think if the government gave them les land they would be fine. 10 acres is a lot of land.you can have 5 acres for your family and 5 acres for food you sell.Also 10 acres is a lot more land you had in london. The people can have there kids plow the land for ten acres.

David said...

I agree completely JP. 10 acres would be more than enough land. I believe that yes, slavery was bad but we need to learn about it so we can make sure that it doesn't happen again.

Scott H. said...

I agree completely with Chase's first comment. It's horrible that regular people were treated like cattle, but I believe that in the end slavery was a good thing. Now we look at African-Americans as regular people. We might not be so accepting if slavery never happened. Furthermore I don't think that Georgia or South Carolina would even exist today if we hadn't had slavery. But on the contrary to that I'm absolutely certain that without slavery, the southern colonies would have found a different for of labor. e.g. Doing the work themselves.

Emily C. said...

I think that slavery was like dogs, the dominate ones attacked and killed the small dogs. i think that slavery was one of the worst possible things that could have happened to this world. i also agree with Asantewaa when she says slavery was like bulling.

Jacob S said...

Slavery was wrong on many levels. even if it is good for the plantation owners, that still dosen't make it any better. cheating is the same way; it makes it easier, but it is still very wrong. on a side note, if people forget about slavery, they will begin to do it again, and starrt the cycle all over again. thats what makes history so important.

Anonymous said...

Shelby Etheridge 1st peroid
Even though slavery was awful the southern colonies wouldn't have prospered. I think the slave owners though of slaves as lower lifeforms because they haerd it from there parrents who probaly also owned slaves it wasn't thought of as "bad" to them it was just business.